College Committee - MAPS

Details

Date
2006-05-18
Time
Location
Agenda

11:00-12:30 425 Stillman Hall

Notes

Present: Ryden, Andereck, Mercerhill, Ausich, Parson, Gerlach, Long, Van Woerkom, Shelton, Gerlach

 

Guest: Ed Adelson

 

  1. May 4 meeting minutes approved
  2. Math – Discussion of removing Level L placement statement and providing a list of courses is being conducted.
  3. McHale
    1. Baseline GEC being proposed
    2. Possible resolutions presented by Bill Childs and sent via email by Dave Andereck

                                                               i.      Proposal to provide more flexibility

                                                             ii.      Andereck proposal = add back 2 within the Breadth category, but not in the major

                                                            iii.      Idea for departments to determine minors that might count discussed but determined to be unmanageable

                                                           iv.      Allowing upper-level non-GEC courses in add back option proposed – question of whether this holds true to the GEC concept

1.      committee wonders if it would be possible to accept upper-level courses that have a GEC as pre-requisite – noted that there are a number of Humanities and SBS courses that do not have any pre-requisites

                                                             v.      Historical Study (formerly survey) is now it’s own category and would therefore be immunity from proposal

                                                           vi.      B.S. degrees separate from this proposal

                                                          vii.      Question of how broad a GEC has to be

1.      currently petitions that make a good case for a narrowly focused upper-division course will likely be approved

2.      Noted that a physics student would benefit greatly from an in-depth study of a topic such as the Vietnam War

                                                        viii.      McHale report debate seems to focus on breadth vs. depth

                                                           ix.      Option for minors/2nd majors could be beneficial if overlap with GEC and may help students to feel GEC is leading toward something tangible

1.      Interdisciplinary aspect is a big focus of faculty, so why not make it so for students?

2.      Minors should be ASC approved in substitution option

3.      Noted that the Childs plan restricts minors to ASC minors

                                                             x.      Committee questions:

1.      Do you require “add back” to be in at least 2 areas?

2.      Do you restrict which subcategories these come from to those outside Breadth area related to the major?

a.       MAPS students couldn’t take natural Sciences or nor more than 1 in Natural Science

3.      Concern regarding student desire to take Natural Science courses – can MAPS courses be made desirable enough to attract students?

                                                           xi.      Suggestion to make proposal that one course must be outside of own Breadth area and/or that no course may come from major

                                                          xii.      Summary: 3 add back courses, at least one outside of own Breadth area, none may come from major’s department

                                                        xiii.      Proposal to reduces hours to graduation

1.      committee not in favor of reducing elective hours

2.      no real support for reduction from 191

                                                        xiv.      Concept of base-line GEC

1.      Question – should Professional Colleges chose whether or not to “add back” courses?

2.      Provides consistency across campus and allows Professional Colleges to decide what else students need

                                                         xv.      Upper division course substitution

1.      committee preference is that these courses simply be approved for GEC status

2.      CCI will need to provide new guidelines for these

3.      Suggestion that students be allowed to add back any course in “Arts or Humanities” above 100 level

a.       Question of how you handle non-ASC courses since some GEC courses are outside ASC

b.      Question of how many petitions already accomplish this – USAS beginning to gather data